I’m upvoting this just because it doesn’t have the Punisher on the team.
Well done.
Afraid-Housing-68542025-11-17 07:08
Why do people want Punisher on the team? Midnight Sons is a team of supernatural themed characters and he doesn’t fit that bill at all.
jhorsley232025-11-17 07:22
I literally just commented nearly the same thing on a recent post with Punisher in the lineup lol
No_Imagination_24902025-11-17 09:57
It's based purely on one image that an artist did as a pitch for a new Midnight Sons comic which had Punisher on the team. The comic was never picked up but the image went viral on social media, so now a lot of casual fans just assume Punisher is part of the team as that image is their only knowledge of the Midnight Sons.
Earth5132025-11-17 14:43
This comment made me want to post a troll post with just sun based characters with the initial confusing Midnight Sons logo that made it look like Suns, but I'm not a big enough fan of that team to really be worthy of posting such a post ahaha
eatmycunt692025-11-19 02:13
Is this it: https://www.reddit.com/r/MAU3/s/ubwj1RPaC0
MostlyAccruate2025-11-17 21:18
to be fair, Frank castle had died once and came back as Frankenstein for a while.
superkick2252025-11-17 07:53
I specifically posted this because I didn’t like that guy’s lineup lmao. Punisher doesn’t belong in the supernatural side of Marvel imo
jhorsley232025-11-17 07:54
You’re doing the lord’s work.
SecretWarsIsComing2025-11-17 08:39
I mean I could see why from a killing POV, it makes sense to have the most killingest good guy (next to Ghost Rider) in the mix on this team.
It’s still light on females, I’d also add Nico Minoru from Runaways in the mix.
superkick2252025-11-17 08:48
I actually considered swapping Strange for Clea
ActualAmbition79162025-11-17 12:23
right? sometimes it feels like every team needs a punisher, but less is more sometimes lmao
Dark_Magician25002025-11-17 17:43
Lol Amen!
Br4nd1n2025-11-17 17:52
Agreed.
spidervenom6192025-11-17 06:53
1. It's Suns not Sons especially with this team.
2. UpVote on the fact there's no Punisher and Wanda on this team, Keep Franky boy on the Defenders and Wanda as a Avenger where she's belongs.
superkick2252025-11-17 07:55
1. I didn’t even know it had 2 names but that makes sense cause it’s gender neutral
2. Yeah Punisher shouldn’t be here and Wanda also is out of place
EasternFudge2025-11-17 11:14
If I'm not mistaken it really was originally Midnight Sons, but that name ended up feeling Nazi-ish as time went on
Legal-Dust63992025-11-17 12:02
Nazi-ish what 😂🙏
EasternFudge2025-11-17 14:46
idek if that's accurate lol, but something like the name sounded similar to supremacist groups. I don't know if it's one group or just in general, but I vaguely remember a discussion similar to that around the time when the Midnight Suns game was announced. Take this with a grain of salt though
APracticalGal2025-11-17 11:54
It's originally Sons. The video game changed it to Suns to be more inclusive, but I'm pretty sure the comics team is still Sons
Legal-Dust63992025-11-17 12:03
Pal it is midnight sons and if you meant that it can't have this name anymore due to female characters so you should know elsa bloodstone was part of the team in damnation storyline where it was still called midnight sons.
Financial_Major56982025-11-17 13:57
eh, sons could still work, there's always been women on the x-MEN
Riley__642025-11-17 15:25
That’s a terrible example they’re called the X-Men because they’re not Human. The men in x-men is not referring to males it’s referring to species.
No_Researcher98652025-11-17 17:54
It’s still called sons when the original team had women and mostly always had, sons also had a lot of meaning & aura behind the name, they are all born from darkness same can be said for suns being a light in darkness for people to find their way but none of them claim to do that and most embrace that darkness
The only time suns was used was in the video game and its tie in comics, which then switched back after a few years, as I said I don’t mind the name suns, but I feel it doesn’t have the same meaning behind it and is silly to change it because there’s women in the team when the xmen are still around 😆
Hot-Half95832025-11-17 06:54
Great team. Black Knight can be added to the Avengers. With Sub-Mariner, She-Hulk, Starfox, and Hercules in the MCU... I can visualize the 80's team with Sam Wilson and Wasp.
blankblix2025-11-17 06:55
Is the black lady the witch from Agatha All Along?
AgentKnitter2025-11-17 07:00
Yep.
blankblix2025-11-17 07:03
Cool! She was a good actress imo. Thanks!
superkick2252025-11-17 07:54
My second favorite behind only Lilia
BON3SMcCOY2025-11-17 08:47
Was her episode the best MCU time travel?
superkick2252025-11-17 08:49
Yep
Nukenitro2025-11-17 08:04
Jennifer Kale. She's actually the cousin of Johnny Blaze/Ghost Rider
RoiVampire2025-11-17 13:38
Yep and she shows up a lot in Man-Thing
JamesBuffalkill2025-11-17 10:23
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Cardinal_and_Plum2025-11-17 12:29
Yeah, in the comics she was a member of the team and has a strong friendship with Man-Thing.
someguytoo2025-11-17 07:16
Who's the woman in red?
pennygirl1082025-11-17 07:18
Elsa bloodstone from werewolf by night
Better-Snow-71912025-11-17 08:32
Because most of the movie was in black and white, a color version of her didn't even register for me either.
Markus28222025-11-17 07:49
WAAAY too big, this is nearly eternals size and that’s why that failed. I’m honestly fine with strange not being on the team. Definitely not black knight or the witch from Agatha all along, as cool as they’d be. Just tossing every cool character in here would hurt everything. There’s a reason the avengers and guardians are 6 people.
Alternatively keep strange and pick 2/3 of the Werewolf by night characters and this is good too.
Also ghost rider should probably be Robbie since he’s the only active one we know about.
LexGonGiveItToYa2025-11-17 07:55
Aw, no Nico Minoru?
superkick2252025-11-17 08:00
Decided to give it to Jen instead. The Runaways canonicity is dubious
Nukenitro2025-11-17 08:08
I would have Strange only show up to get the team started and give them their mission and Man-Thing just be a spiritual guide. Keeps the team more focused on the task at hand and cuts the roster a little bit for the main story.
I'd also spin Black Knight as the odd man out who is only their because he was following Blade. Make him the more grounded everyman character who is still learning his destiny. Fits well with how Dane in the comics had a long period of not fully grasping his role or lineage.
Cardinal_and_Plum2025-11-17 12:31
I feel like that works for Knight. If the team has multiple outings he should be one and done imo. He's never been on the team in the comics as far as I'm aware, being more of an Avengers or MI-13 member than any other team.
HeroXeroV2025-11-17 08:10
I only know the team from the great xcom clone game. In that one everyone and their mama seemed to be members 😄
Cardinal_and_Plum2025-11-17 12:34
That game definitely stretched the roster. A lot of the characters there have never been on that team.
HeroXeroV2025-11-17 12:52
I thought so, Cap and Spidey seems like unlikely team members.
VenomousCornbread2025-11-17 08:20
Who is the lady in pink??
superkick2252025-11-17 08:37
Jennifer Kale from Agatha All Along
marvelcomics222025-11-17 08:48
Which Ghost Rider is that? Would love to see Gabriel Luna come back.
superkick2252025-11-17 09:20
Idk a fanart I found
Nightwing06132025-11-17 09:35
Perfect roster
Now just add Brother Voodoo, Magik & Hannibal King
FoggyInc2025-11-17 10:01
If one more of you posts one of these without the queen of goddamn Limbo I'm going to slip a disc if you know what I mean
Soulwarfare422025-11-17 12:12
I agree with everyone except Dr Strange
I don't think Strange will necessarily be on the team but maybe a Nick Fury type character to recruit everyone
superkick2252025-11-17 16:47
Yeah that’s the kind of role I imagined him in. The recruiter
QBin20172025-11-17 13:33
At this point the Black Knight is done, let it go.
Also think Blade can come in for the sequel. The characters for Midnight Sons is solid without Blade and a TON of story to set up. Blade isn’t even in the MCU yet. So let it develop on time. Have a great MS movie with Strange assembling a team.
Then at the end….tease Blade for part 2. Or hell, tease Vampires in general and have Strange say “I know a guy”.
Heart-Lights4202025-11-17 14:33
So… we would want movies for MS? Wouldn’t this work better as a show? I mean because of the amount of characters?
I only say this because I keep seeing posts about “Eternals should have been a show” kinda thing.
QBin20172025-11-17 15:44
If it’s animated then Yes. For sure. As a show it would be Waaaaay too expensive with the amount of actor salaries and CGI.
Heart-Lights4202025-11-17 16:10
Yeah… I see what you’re saying.
Hey, we can only dream!! 😁👍
Ordinary-Chain-80472025-11-17 14:04
Too big if this is the starting one
No_Researcher98652025-11-17 14:56
I’d swap doctor strange with brother voodoo or maybe even Wong if they don’t want to create a new character, I feel doctor strange & Wong is too high caliber in terms of power for this team
superkick2252025-11-17 16:49
Agreed
I_am_BEOWULF2025-11-17 17:38
> I feel doctor strange & Wong is too high caliber in terms of power for this team
Doctor Strange is a natural fit with the world & vibes of the Midnight Sons. The original Midnight Sons came together to combat Lilith, the "mother of demons". Doctor Strange and Wong are pretty much a far more of a fit to this mystical/supernatural side of Marvel compared to with the Avengers - where his usual cameos are just a consultant for Tony/Cap on issues about magic/supernatural stuff.
No_Researcher98652025-11-17 18:11
Looking at specifically doctor stranges magical feats and spells used I don’t think seeing a werewolf or Elsa with a crossbow would help in the slightest a similar problem suicide squad has with Harley Quinn, doctor strange is quoted to be the best of the sorcerers and Wong is the new sorcerer supreme, which comes with a lot of other magical abilities.
Aside from narratively doctor strange is firmly in the avengers world in movies and leads his own movie franchise, I don’t think they would want to spend or use Benedict’s contract for a show (I hope) or movie where he is probably going to be professor X’d out of the movie due to the power gap.
I think it makes much more sense for Wong to assemble a midnight sons team, as he is the sorcerer supreme and holds that responsibility, not strange, and because he has other supreme duties and problems he has to solve appoints brother voodoo, a sorcerer with a new exciting type of magic we haven’t seen before, we typically works well with others compared to strange, yet there could be some tension about who’s in charge between him and blade, doctor strange can be mentioned having to stop and incursion or problems in the dark dimension letting other characters have their time to shine
I_am_BEOWULF2025-11-18 04:22
> Aside from narratively doctor strange is firmly in the avengers world in movies and leads his own movie franchise, I don’t think they would want to spend or use Benedict’s contract for a show (I hope) or movie where he is probably going to be professor X’d out of the movie due to the power gap.
Honestly, if the prevailing thought here is that we're wasting Benedict's contract in a show then they shouldn't be making Midnight Sons a show in the first place. The Blaze/Ketch Ghost Rider is literally off-the-charts in powerscaling and is pretty much a tentpole movie IP that's currently not being used. Using either in a Midnight Sons "show" would be a total waste. Same with Blade. And if you're not using either Strange, Ghost Rider or Blade in a Midnight Sons project due to apprehensions about wasting their appearances, then there is literally no point in creating Midnight Sons in the first place.
The whole idea of the Midnight Sons is that these are the most disparate yet powerful mystical characters in the Marvel universe
forced to band together to combat an existential threat on the level of Thanos that the rest of the superhero community are oblivious to due to its mystical nature.
Strange shouldn't be a wasted appearance in such a project if they approached it from a serious tentpole movie franchise perspective and gave it the same amount of storytelling respect and gravitas that the Phase 1 movies got.
TaiBlake2025-11-17 15:49
Can we please give Elsa red hair. :-(
brycifer6662025-11-17 16:12
Man-Thing and Kale. Good stuff good stuff
vivianvisionsburner2025-11-17 16:26
Definitely one of the better wishlists I've seen for this team. Love the addition of Jennifer Kale, too.
Well done
HearTheEkko2025-11-17 17:36
Perfect. This should be the official lineup.
ritzdeez2025-11-17 18:39
I want to see more Man-Thing. He looked awesome in Werewolf by Night.
hoofcake2025-11-17 18:57
Was trying to figure out why Cynthia Erivo was in this for a second.
superkick2252025-11-17 19:09
Lmao
Llonkrednaxela2025-11-17 19:14
I feel like you gotta swap strange and Wong.
superkick2252025-11-17 20:33
Thought about it
Randoml97892025-11-17 20:25
Loving the addition of the witch from aaa.
superkick2252025-11-17 20:40
I love Jen!
TheIJDGuy2025-11-17 21:08
Now THIS is a genuinely feasible roster!
ModernBass2025-11-17 22:15
Yes, except I wouldn't put Strange on the team. Have the series be an origin story for Doctor Voodoo
superkick2252025-11-17 22:47
Fair
BigBearChainsaw2025-11-18 05:41
This feels like it would make a great series more than a show to really flesh out the different relationships on the team. Especially with a lot of the team coming from Disney+ shows / specials already.
It would need to be more of a Last of Us budget vs an Agatha budget to get it right, especially if it’s the Midnight Sons fighting their way into Hell to stop Mephisto. For that reason, I’d prefer no Dr Strange unless it’s a cameo (to save on Mr. Cumberbatch’s salary), and having Wong in the Nick Fury role assembling the team.
If it’s a hit, Season 2 can get ATJ to return as Magik and Mia Goth as Lilith
superkick2252025-11-18 06:03
I was deciding between Strange or Wong for the Nick Fury role. Even considered Clea but we’ve seen so little of her in the MCU
urnoob_16072025-11-18 07:19
would love Brother Voodoo to be introduced at some point and replace strange
DarkShadowZX2025-11-18 11:20
Nice! But since the MCU has been throwing Strange aside for the longest time, maybe a Dr Voodoo Sorcerer Supreme would work better for this team. We already have a Brother Daniel in the first Strange movie (who also died in that movie), so the setup is right there to introduce him into the MCU.
danrpx2025-11-18 16:47
I would have Strange in more of an adviser role, he's too powerful compared to the rest of the team.
superkick2252025-11-18 18:57
Yeah I pictured him in a Nick Fury role
[deleted]2025-11-18 17:27
Great
Paybackcity2025-11-18 19:48
Who’s the woman next to moon knight
superkick2252025-11-18 20:09
Elsa Bloodstone
Paybackcity2025-11-19 02:08
Oh yeah I forgot they did virtually nothing with her after werewolf by night
Galderick_Wolf2025-11-20 12:14
I think it'd be max of 6 or 7 members for everyone to have enough screen time. They learned from Eternal
superkick2252025-11-20 16:05
RustyInfluencer2025-11-20 19:30
I would add Agatha Harkness, Elektra and make Jenniffer Kale join the team along with Scarlet Witch in like 2nd movie where Agatha leaves
Commentaires
Well done.
It’s still light on females, I’d also add Nico Minoru from Runaways in the mix.
2. UpVote on the fact there's no Punisher and Wanda on this team, Keep Franky boy on the Defenders and Wanda as a Avenger where she's belongs.
2. Yeah Punisher shouldn’t be here and Wanda also is out of place
The only time suns was used was in the video game and its tie in comics, which then switched back after a few years, as I said I don’t mind the name suns, but I feel it doesn’t have the same meaning behind it and is silly to change it because there’s women in the team when the xmen are still around 😆
Alternatively keep strange and pick 2/3 of the Werewolf by night characters and this is good too.
Also ghost rider should probably be Robbie since he’s the only active one we know about.
I'd also spin Black Knight as the odd man out who is only their because he was following Blade. Make him the more grounded everyman character who is still learning his destiny. Fits well with how Dane in the comics had a long period of not fully grasping his role or lineage.
Now just add Brother Voodoo, Magik & Hannibal King
I don't think Strange will necessarily be on the team but maybe a Nick Fury type character to recruit everyone
Also think Blade can come in for the sequel. The characters for Midnight Sons is solid without Blade and a TON of story to set up. Blade isn’t even in the MCU yet. So let it develop on time. Have a great MS movie with Strange assembling a team.
Then at the end….tease Blade for part 2. Or hell, tease Vampires in general and have Strange say “I know a guy”.
I only say this because I keep seeing posts about “Eternals should have been a show” kinda thing.
Hey, we can only dream!! 😁👍
Doctor Strange is a natural fit with the world & vibes of the Midnight Sons. The original Midnight Sons came together to combat Lilith, the "mother of demons". Doctor Strange and Wong are pretty much a far more of a fit to this mystical/supernatural side of Marvel compared to with the Avengers - where his usual cameos are just a consultant for Tony/Cap on issues about magic/supernatural stuff.
Aside from narratively doctor strange is firmly in the avengers world in movies and leads his own movie franchise, I don’t think they would want to spend or use Benedict’s contract for a show (I hope) or movie where he is probably going to be professor X’d out of the movie due to the power gap.
I think it makes much more sense for Wong to assemble a midnight sons team, as he is the sorcerer supreme and holds that responsibility, not strange, and because he has other supreme duties and problems he has to solve appoints brother voodoo, a sorcerer with a new exciting type of magic we haven’t seen before, we typically works well with others compared to strange, yet there could be some tension about who’s in charge between him and blade, doctor strange can be mentioned having to stop and incursion or problems in the dark dimension letting other characters have their time to shine
Honestly, if the prevailing thought here is that we're wasting Benedict's contract in a show then they shouldn't be making Midnight Sons a show in the first place. The Blaze/Ketch Ghost Rider is literally off-the-charts in powerscaling and is pretty much a tentpole movie IP that's currently not being used. Using either in a Midnight Sons "show" would be a total waste. Same with Blade. And if you're not using either Strange, Ghost Rider or Blade in a Midnight Sons project due to apprehensions about wasting their appearances, then there is literally no point in creating Midnight Sons in the first place.
The whole idea of the Midnight Sons is that these are the most disparate yet powerful mystical characters in the Marvel universe
forced to band together to combat an existential threat on the level of Thanos that the rest of the superhero community are oblivious to due to its mystical nature.
Strange shouldn't be a wasted appearance in such a project if they approached it from a serious tentpole movie franchise perspective and gave it the same amount of storytelling respect and gravitas that the Phase 1 movies got.
Well done
It would need to be more of a Last of Us budget vs an Agatha budget to get it right, especially if it’s the Midnight Sons fighting their way into Hell to stop Mephisto. For that reason, I’d prefer no Dr Strange unless it’s a cameo (to save on Mr. Cumberbatch’s salary), and having Wong in the Nick Fury role assembling the team.
If it’s a hit, Season 2 can get ATJ to return as Magik and Mia Goth as Lilith